THE MT VOID Mt. Holz Science Fiction Society 03/29/02 -- Vol. 20, No. 39 El Presidente: Mark Leeper, mleeper@optonline.net The Power Behind El Pres: Evelyn Leeper, eleeper@optonline.net Back issues at http://www.geocities.com/evelynleeper All material copyright by author unless otherwise noted. To subscribe, send mail to mtvoid-subscribe@yahoogroups.com To unsubscribe, send mail to mtvoid-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Topics: Famous in Peoria H G Wells, Roger & Me (comments by Mark R. Leeper) =================================================================== TOPIC: Famous in Peoria Two articles on alternate history ran in the Peoria Journal Star March 28: http://www.pjstar.com/news/entertainment/g40095a.html http://www.pjstar.com/news/entertainment/g80042a.html A certain "Evelyn C. Leeper" was quoted in them. =================================================================== TOPIC: H G Wells, Roger & Me (comments by Mark R. Leeper) I have been a fan of H. G. Wells for a good many years. Though I could not have been more than two or three at the time, I remember seeing the George Pal THE WAR OF THE WORLDS on its first release. It is the first film I remember seeing in a theater. I hated it at the time, but three or four years later I think I was very anxious to see it again. Concerning Wells's science fiction novels, one of the things that has struck me is that, while his ideas seem far-fetched compared to say those of Jules Verne, frequently they are not quite so fanciful as they first seem. They do have a certain late 19th century plausibility about them. I have more than once found what at first seemed like at first like bad science. On rereading the book I discover that he had already thought out my objection and answered it. When you read his exposition you generally discover that he has given the idea more thought than they might at first seem to have. For example an invisible man would seem to have some physical problems. Invisible eyes could not focus light and hence would be effectively blind. However, Wells says that his invisible man is not entirely invisible. The retinas of his eyes are not quite invisible, but if he is careful they are not seen. Even so he would not have useful vision, but at least Wells recognized that invisible eyes were a problem. In his review of the recent film THE TIME MACHINE, Roger Ebert points out what would appear to be a technical error in the novel that inspired that film. He said "The time machine has an uncanny ability to move in perfect synchronization with the Earth, so that it always lands in the same geographical spot, despite the fact that in the future large chunks of the moon (or all of it, according to the future race of Eloi) have fallen to the Earth, which should have had some effect on the orbit. Since it would be inconvenient if a time machine materialized miles in the air or deep underground, this is just as well." I responded in my review in an open note to Roger Ebert, "You ask in your review why the Time Machine stays in one place rather than at a particular set of coordinates in space with the Earth flying away from under it. I had puzzled that one myself, but years ago decided it makes sense. The Time Machine is a physical device that creates a field in which funny things happen with time. Like most matter we see, it has been captured by Planet Earth and is carried with it. It is not immovable, it just is not moved relative to the earth." "People do not move it because it moves through their time too fast for them to see. But the pull of gravity is instantaneous and binds it to the earth just the same way it binds us. In the 1960 film the machine even moves a little relative to the Earth when the traveler hits the brakes too suddenly. Then the forward movement in time gets dissipated into gyroscopic motion in three dimensions. The machine spins around and topples to its side. A plane moves forward in the sky, but it still maintains its momentum and travels pretty much with the Earth." Mr. Ebert (who I can proudly say has read my film comments before) apparently saw this comment. He responded in his Film Answer Man column, "OK, OK. So then what happens when it reappears in a space already occupied by another physical object?" The short answer is that the traveler would not fare very well. He would probably end up embedded in the matter much like Robert Lansing ends in the film THE 4D MAN. Not to confuse things with yet another piece of fiction, but Brigadoon, the magical village that appears just one day a century, stays in one place on the surface of the earth. Most days people can hike and camp over that land without causing a problem. The people of Brigadoon, when they exist, always feel firm ground under their feet, but the ground supports the village only one day a century. If someone erects a building on that land, there could be trouble when the village returns. Speed Brigadoon's cycle up infinitely, from 100 years to zero so it is moving continuously through time, and you have what is happening in THE TIME MACHINE. Now the longer answer. I am trying to give an accurate representation of the concept in the novel, not an argument that I think is good physics. The time machine moving in time interacts with the physical world, that is light, matter, and time, with the strength of interactions being reduced to 1/S of the standard level of interactions where S is the rate at which time has been speeded up. How fast does the time machine go? It moves about seven billion hours into the future in a time that, based on the description, could easily be about seven hours for the passenger. S is very roughly about a billion (or 1,000,000,000). Why does the time machine appear to be invisible? Wells uses the term "presentation dilution." He likens the time machine speeding past too fast to be really seen. A better analogy might be a spinning propeller blade. One sees through it to the wing behind it with the image slightly dimmed. The amount dimmed is the ratio of the area subtended by the propeller blades to the 360-degree circle. If the ratio were as small as 1/S, the dimming might not be noticeable at all. Similarly, you do not see the time machine as it passes you going through time. In its case, however, it works like a calculus differential. [We are talking about the limit of something like the Brigadoon case as the cycle time goes from a century to zero.] Why can you move your hand through the space that the moving time machine should be occupying? The real reason two objects cannot occupy the same space at the same time is not that they are solid. They are not when you get down to the atomic level. There are basic forces on the atomic level that cause them to repel each other. If those forces could be reduced by a factor of 1/S, one object might pass through the other much as the arms of different galaxies occasionally pass through each other. If one can move one's hand into the space of the time machine, shouldn't it sink into the floor? Actually, no. The force of gravity is reduced to G/S. It means there is not much weight to support. This whole time the floor is persistently pushing back whenever the time machine is there. Just as the people of Brigadoon always feel the force of the ground beneath their feet, so the time machine is constantly supported by the floor. What happens when the time machine stops at the same location as a physical object? Wells did think about this, at least if you consider a body of air to be a physical object. When the time machine starts and stops there is always a rush of mention of wind or of tinkling glassware. This is an admission that the machine and its passenger do displace a body of air. Wells seems to think that the air can be easily pushed aside. What might be more likely is that the passenger would aerate his body, which might not be such a good thing. If what the time traveler is displacing is something a good deal stiffer, like rock, he would end up embedded in it or perhaps even suffused with the rock which would certainly prove fatal. [-mrl] =================================================================== Mark Leeper mleeper@optonline.net I can sympathize with people's pains, but not with their pleasure. There is something curiously boring about somebody else's happiness. -- Aldous Huxley ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Stock for $4. No Minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/BgmYkB/VovDAA/ySSFAA/J.MolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: mtvoid-unsubscribe@egroups.com Your use of Yahoo! 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